並前往https://chartable.com/podcasts/zhuan-ba-chuang-meng-da-shu/episodes/78172149-ep24-mei-shi-jie-de-chuang-yi-jia-bo-si-yong-shi-wu-wan-chu-tai-bei-zui-qiang-can-ting-featmao-xia-qu-dun-bei-ju-le-bu-chuang-ban-ren-chen-lu-kuan